Arwin, what's this about mousetraps? I thought we were talking web design.

But seriously, yeah I know you can write special code for IE. You really have to. And I think that's stupid that IE requires that - but I still do it when I have to.

Greg,

I'm not trying to turn this into another Bella vs. Zendaya type disagreement (#TeamZendaya ) but the special code came about due to the fact that those lesser browsers weren't as good at adhering to the standards. Remember IE came first and it wasn't Microsoft IE at the time. It was Mozilla and it was invented by computer scientists by the University of Illinois Champaign Urbana. Microsoft simply acquired it.

... You mean they were better at giving the end user what they wanted.

(#TeamBella)

*FACE PALM*

Greg,

All I'm going to say is that I hope you don't plan on going into to web design for your career. If you are then you best plan for a rude awakening.

If Chrome, Firefox and Safari didn't collectively give users a better experience than IE, then why would anyone switch from what's pre-installed? They have to be better by definition.

Greg,

There is two basic reasons people use these aftermarket browsers:

1. Speed - they are faster than IE and as I explained above the reason they are faster is because they contain less code. The tradeoff to this comes with the fact they are also less capable.

2. Anti-Microsoft sentiment. Yes, there is A LOT of this and it comes from IT pros and end users alike. ANY company that achieves mega-success goes through this. Apple is also experiencing it more than ever these days. People get this notion in their head that XYZ company has gotten too big and too arrogant and they look for another solution even if it's not as good. In their head they believe it's better even though it really isn't. For example, from a network standpoint NO ONE comes close to AT&T and Verizon when it comes to cellular phone service but there are millions of people who are using Sprint, Nationwide Cellular, Metro PCS, etc. just because they don't want to be part of the large companies which they preceive as being monopolies. There's some of that going one with Microsoft/IE as well.

Exactly! They give people what they want, better.



Less capable? They do more. You seem to think that they shouldn't.

Greg,

I've said all I can about this subject. I believe it's time to move on to something else.

This argument has certainly been fun to read...

IE is evil when it comes to Web design, Firefox understands codes and plays them out perfectly. IE doesn't even work for moz borders, which is shiz cause thats the easiest way to make things rounded off. Plus my DebbyHQ table alignment fecks up in IE. But it really shouldn't. Not to mention IE doesn't understand that when a code specifys for no borders it means no borders. Blah, evil IE.

That reminds me though, I need to get around to coding this new layout I made. Hms.

Thank you Tasha. At least someone gets it.